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Mark Allen M | Post subject: USS Sable and USS Wolverine ... Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:09 am | |||
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm Posts: 7609 | This idea was brought to my attention the other day and thought it a great choice for a thread. Most of us who are US Navy fans can certainly recall the Navy's efforts to train their pilots on the Great Lakes (Lake Michigan) in the early 40's during the war. This thread may give you a nice idea of what that exersize was all about. Many interesting images to study here and quite possibly of interest to those who are involved with the restoration of aircraft that have been recovered from the Lakes. I have also included a page from my dad's logbook showing his 1st thru 8th carrier landings on the USS Wolverine in July 1944. Sources are the NMNA archives, Library of Congress photo archives, LIFE image archives. This will be a large photo thread in a few parts so we'll start with the two principal ships. WIKI: USS Sable (IX-81) was a training ship of the United States Navy during World War II. Originally built as the 'Greater Buffalo', a sidewheel excursion steamer, she was converted in 1942 to a freshwater aircraft carrier to be used on the Great Lakes. She was used for advanced training for naval aviators in carrier takeoffs and landings. One aviator that trained upon the Sable was future president George H. W. Bush. Following World War II, Sable was decommissioned on 7 November 1945. She was sold for scrapping on 7 July 1948 to the H.H. Buncher Company.
WIKI: USS Wolverine (IX-64) a side-wheel excursion steamer built in 1913—was originally named 'Seeandbee', a name based upon her owners' company name, the Cleveland and Buffalo Transit Co.[4] She was constructed by the American Ship Building Company of Wyandotte, Michigan. The Navy acquired the sidewheeler on 12 March 1942 and designated her an unclassified miscellaneous auxiliary, IX-64. She was purchased by the Navy in March 1942 and conversion to a training aircraft carrier began on 6 May 1942.[5] The name Wolverine was approved on 2 August 1942 with the ship being commissioned on 12 August 1942.[5][6] Intended to operate on Lake Michigan, IX-64 received its name because the state of Michigan is known as the Wolverine State.
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Mark Allen M | Post subject: Re: USS Sable and USS Wolverine ... Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:37 am | |||
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Mark Allen M | Post subject: Re: USS Sable and USS Wolverine ... Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:44 am | |||
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Mark Allen M | Post subject: Re: USS Sable and USS Wolverine ... Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:54 am | |||
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm Posts: 7609 | Training on the USS Wolverine ...
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maxum96 | Post subject: Re: USS Sable and USS Wolverine ... Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:17 pm | |||
Joined: Sun Dec 31, 2006 5:11 pm Posts: 1111 Location: Outer Space | Once again Mark, great pictures. Thanks for sharing. I'd never heard of the TDN's before. Here's another picture I found of 2 TDN's on the Sable. | |||
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Cherrybomber13 | Post subject: Re: USS Sable and USS Wolverine ... Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:36 pm | ||
Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:48 pm Posts: 937 Location: Westchester New York | Mark, _________________ | ||
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Mark Allen M | Post subject: Re: USS Sable and USS Wolverine ... Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:58 pm | |||
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm Posts: 7609 | Thx guys, I'm just filling in for Jack Cook until comes back to do this right Here's dad on what is starting to look more and more like he could have been on the USS Wolverine at the time these photos were taken. BTW he was very tall (6-2) for a Navy pilot back then. Correction: I'm now to think this is dad at NAS Glenview, not on the Wolverine as all pilots were required to perform eight successful take-offs and landings and I believe the only way to have been out of the co*ckpit on the Lakes carriers was to have had a mishap of some sort. That's not for sure though.
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bdk | Post subject: Re: USS Sable and USS Wolverine ... Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:06 pm | |||
Joined: Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am Posts: 11291 | I like the way you have organized these! Thanks Mark. Can we tie any of the aircraft pictured into ones that have been recovered from the bottom of the lake? | |||
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The Inspector | Post subject: Re: USS Sable and USS Wolverine ... Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:49 pm | |||
Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:36 am Posts: 7961 Location: Mt. Vernon, WA. | bdk wrote: I like the way you have organized these! Thanks Mark. Can we tie any of the aircraft pictured into ones that have been recovered from the bottom of the lake? Anyone else pick up on the BRUNSWICK TDN-1 in photo #3?, later they turned out lots of despised 'bowling ball' H-D's, and that's oxymoronic, a poor quality H-D _________________ | |||
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Mark Allen M | Post subject: Re: USS Sable and USS Wolverine ... Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:12 pm | |||
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm Posts: 7609 | A few more Sable images. Chuck Wahl I'm going through my SBD photos for more as well. I've seen a few Sable SBD photos.
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Mark Allen M | Post subject: Re: USS Sable and USS Wolverine ... Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:19 pm | |||
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm Posts: 7609 | A few more Wolverine images.
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Chris Brame | Post subject: Re: USS Sable and USS Wolverine ... Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:49 pm | ||||
Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:02 am Posts: 4636 Location: Yucca Valley, CA | Here's the first recovery in 1979: _________________ Last edited by Chris Brame on Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:42 pm, edited 1 time in total. | ||||
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Mark Allen M | Post subject: Re: USS Sable and USS Wolverine ... Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:56 pm | |||
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:48 pm Posts: 7609 | Looks like we already have a 'winner' ... See the two TBF photos of (T-5) in the water. Very cool. _________________ | |||
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Chris Brame | Post subject: Re: USS Sable and USS Wolverine ... Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:02 pm | ||||
Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2004 2:02 am Posts: 4636 Location: Yucca Valley, CA | I thought so at first, but this T-5 has a star but no bars. Guess that wasn't a lucky number... _________________ | ||||
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